1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,480 This is the largest UFO wave we've had in Pennsylvania in 35 years. 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,380 What's going on in Bucks County? 3 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:15,380 Total mayhem. 4 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:17,360 If that was a planet, it would have fell right out of the sky. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,080 You want to find that wow image? 6 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:22,400 The one that's going to say, look, we've got them, they're here. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Did he saw a very, very unusual phenomenon? 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:36,040 If we can validate the story, what we have is an unidentified object in that airspace. 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,240 UFOs exist. 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,800 What is not certain is what they are. 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:53,160 The mutual UFO network, or MUFON, watches the skies, investigating sightings, soon after 12 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:56,600 they occur. 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:03,080 Their investigators use the tools of science, psychology, and law enforcement to get as 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,160 close to the truth as the truth will allow. 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Unidentified flying objects definitely exist. 16 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Only their identity remains a mystery. 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:33,200 The mystery of UFOs over Earth. 18 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,440 I'm excited. 19 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,400 I'm excited that they're coming, excited they're at my back door. 20 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,240 I am waiting to see what the culmination of all this is. 21 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:52,320 To me is something that is at the forefront of a breakthrough. 22 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,000 When they're talking about a flap, essentially what you have is the occurrence of a number 23 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:04,600 of sightings in a fairly short period of time in a given geographic location. 24 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Most UFO sightings occur with an individual. 25 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,600 They happen, then they're gone. 26 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Once in a while you get a mass sighting. 27 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,080 In 1997 we had the lights over Phoenix. 28 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,560 We're seen by 10,000 people. 29 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,680 It was seen by the governor of Arizona. 30 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,120 The flaps are rare because they can last for days and sometimes months. 31 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,880 And then one day just as quick as it starts it stops again and nobody knows why. 32 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,400 So you want to take advantage of it. 33 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:41,120 You want to look into it as quickly as possible. 34 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,280 This is the largest UFO wave we've had in Pennsylvania in 35 years. 35 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,760 We normally get 8 to 10 sightings a month. 36 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,760 We get 63 reports in July. 37 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,520 There were 25 more in August, 32 more in September. 38 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Why all of a sudden is Pennsylvania seeing all of this? 39 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Something is going on. 40 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Even though there are different days and different times, we're seen a description of some very 41 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,960 common objects. 42 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:18,520 The activity that we're looking at right now is about seven times more than the usual. 43 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:25,400 We put together all our information so that we have a map of all the sightings. 44 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,320 A lot of people have reported different objects and it's interesting to note that these objects 45 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,840 vary from a cylinder shaped object to a boomerang to a sphere. 46 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,720 What was was a white ball of light. 47 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,880 So I ran inside and I grabbed my mistrong of binoculars and I honed right in when that 48 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,280 son of a gun and there was no structural features at all. 49 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,680 It was just a white, pure ball of light. 50 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,400 I've only been investigating for MOFON four months now. 51 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,680 I'm out here to figure out what the hell is going on out there. 52 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 It was ball shaped kind of. 53 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Just like multi-colored. 54 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Yeah. 55 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,880 It was bright as like dominant colors were blue and orange. 56 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,560 I was sitting out on my porch and I just happened to look over and there came a beautiful blue 57 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,560 sphere. 58 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 It was a beautiful blue that I'll never forget the color. 59 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Like a blue basketball that made me light inside of it to show the blue. 60 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,080 You know what I'm saying? 61 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Take a boomerang and put a football in the middle and they had red lights in the front. 62 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,160 When you look at these objects that are being reported, they are giving different descriptions 63 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,160 to it. 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,560 But you've got this large group of people that tell a very compelling story and they're 65 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,560 very believable. 66 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,920 What would you say if I told you that four other people that night had a sighting that 67 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,920 they reported? 68 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,920 I'm not crazy. 69 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:52,120 80% maybe 90% of these sightings are actually IFOs. 70 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,840 But there's always that unexpected 10 to 5% that remain unexplained and that's what I'm 71 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,440 after. 72 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,840 The first thing I do is to ask what would be the motive? 73 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:09,760 What would be their reason for coming forward and actually seeing I'm seeing these things? 74 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,240 I realized it was a solid object. 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,560 It wasn't shaped like a plane. 76 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,560 I've never seen anything like a plane that looked like that. 77 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,560 It didn't make any noise. 78 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,560 It moved very slow. 79 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,440 If that was a plane, it would have fell right out of the sky. 80 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:28,440 As Cliff is telling his story, I'm thinking here's an average person, a retired person 81 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:38,360 who wakes up in the middle of the night and sees something he doesn't understand. 82 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,840 I think the fact that we have over 50 witnesses, they don't know each other. 83 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,080 They don't know of each other. 84 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,600 I think that says something about this investigation. 85 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,640 That something real happened, that these people saw something that they can't explain that 86 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,800 looked unnatural to them. 87 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:00,200 I happen to see four objects coming round, lit balls. 88 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,640 We're looking up and they're out there and two of them are stationary. 89 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,280 Now that they make that type of a sound? 90 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:11,720 That's the usual A-10 warthog flying by. 91 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,320 They usually don't fly over a house like that. 92 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 But the sound from the UFOs, they sound like those? 93 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,920 There was no sound whatsoever from these sites. 94 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,920 That's unusual. 95 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,800 How did you feel at that point? 96 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Were you afraid? 97 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,400 I was a little bit uneasy because they were absolutely silent. 98 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,520 That was what struck me was there was no sound, whatever. 99 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,480 When she gives her description of those four objects just like her husband, I mean it was 100 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,520 a very believable, compelling description. 101 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,520 To speak to them, you're convinced that these people saw what they saw. 102 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,600 We live within five minutes of the air base. 103 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:56,800 So I've come to be able to identify all kinds of military aircraft at 14s, at 18s, A-10 104 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,000 warthogs, you know, the whole bit. 105 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:05,240 And I immediately knew this was nothing that I could identify as either a commercial aircraft 106 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,680 or a military aircraft. 107 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,480 It was something, you know, totally different. 108 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Could this be ours? 109 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Not unless we have some kind of blue ball ships. 110 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,120 You know, I'm seeing a bigger story here. 111 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Plus there's people, people with good backgrounds, they're all coming forward. 112 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,040 But people don't have evidence. 113 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Did you at any point want to take your eyes away and go get a camera? 114 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,280 I never, you know, the thought never occurred to me because I was fixated. 115 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:42,160 I was just mesmerized, fixated, and I just couldn't take my eyes away. 116 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,000 You know, one of the things that I wish would happen is that someone else would see it and 117 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,880 maybe get it on film. 118 00:07:49,880 --> 00:08:00,400 I thought it was a helicopter, but it wasn't making any noise and it didn't have like one 119 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,400 light. 120 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,800 It had three lights and they were on the surface of the object. 121 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,120 It was kind of freaky, kind of like a boomerang. 122 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Okay. 123 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Now, that was in April. 124 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 I'm currently working on 60 cases right now. 125 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Part of what makes Denise's sighting the most special out of them all is that she's 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,960 had multiple sightings and a written report with the specific dates in the time frame. 127 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,120 And May, same thing. 128 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,800 The dog woke me up and we came out. 129 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,520 And as soon as I came out the back door, it was above this tree right here directly. 130 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Then the next time, I guess it was in June and it was the same exact spot again. 131 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,000 It seems like it's in these two spots every time I come out. 132 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Now I did see on your report, you said there was a cone of light that came from it. 133 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Yes, yes. 134 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:53,200 I saw this glitter coming down from the object into this tree and also this tree. 135 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,200 It was like glitter. 136 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,840 I thought, oh, this is really weird. 137 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,480 I'm not telling anybody about this, you know. 138 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,160 And next thing I know, I saw the glitter leave both trees and go up to the crayon. 139 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,320 She's telling us this situation of these metallic sprinkles that came down and landed in her 140 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,320 backyard. 141 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,120 I found it a little hard to believe. 142 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,680 Then as we researched and got into it a little bit more, we find out that there was a case, 143 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,120 I believe, in 1999 in Mexico, same exact thing. 144 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,120 It was just silver. 145 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,120 It was sparkly and this tree was full. 146 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Silver looked like Christmas light. 147 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,160 A little bit here on the outer leaves. 148 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,160 I have a Porta Poguiga counter. 149 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,760 So I said, let me see if we get any trace elements off of this. 150 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,760 As I put it on the branches in towards the center of the tree, you didn't get any readings. 151 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:50,120 But then as you got outside to the perimeter of it on the top of the leaves, it was clicking, 152 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,120 it was going off. 153 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,720 I'm like, wow, this is something solid that we can work with. 154 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Each case, you take through a process. 155 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,840 You go through the whole investigative process. 156 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,640 You gather up soil samples. 157 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,400 You gather up vegetation samples. 158 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,120 And then put all the pieces of the puzzle together to see what happened. 159 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,320 Log the case number and the date of location. 160 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,000 And we'll send it off to be analyzed. 161 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:23,320 And we'll see anything that's out of this world. 162 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,600 That brought it to a different level. 163 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,600 That brought it to a different level of expertise. 164 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Then we find out that Denise has photos. 165 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,360 She's got pictures. 166 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Denise's case became very important to us. 167 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 It was beautiful looking. 168 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,280 This thing had no lights. 169 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Seemed like it wanted to be unseen. 170 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,600 An estimated 10,000 UFO sightings are reported each year. 171 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:03,360 MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network, chronicles these sightings, but only investigates those 172 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,680 they consider credible. 173 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,880 The following is an account of one such investigation. 174 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Just happened to look over and there came a beautiful blue sphere. 175 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:24,680 We were about like right here and it was flying that way. 176 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,400 We didn't have like one light. 177 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:32,320 It had three lights and they were on the surface. 178 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Denise's investigation is really what you hope for because there's a lot of evidence 179 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 coming together here that says something really happened here. 180 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Hi Denise. 181 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,960 Hi how are you? 182 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Good. 183 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:42,960 This is Tim. 184 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Hi nice to meet you. 185 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Hi Denise. 186 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,960 Nice to meet you. 187 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Nice to meet you. 188 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Nice to meet you. 189 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Nice to meet you. 190 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,960 I'm going to work on creating some artwork. 191 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,560 We'll work together and I'll make it look as accurate as we can to what it is that we've 192 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,560 seen. 193 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:00,280 It was just something like you weren't sure what it was but it was beautiful looking. 194 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Like triangular or boomerang shape. 195 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Yeah kind of like a boomerang shape. 196 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,960 Take a boomerang and put a football in the middle and it had red lights in the front. 197 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Goldy red lights that were kind of pulsating. 198 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,480 You mentioned this before a pinkish light. 199 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Right. 200 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Say like if I see this in the sky, there'd be a pink light flickering. 201 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,840 This time I saw it above this house over here at the rooftop. 202 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,240 On one of the evenings I think you said that it dropped some kind of substance that came 203 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,240 down or. 204 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:38,640 It was all glitter and then it went into this tree. 205 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:44,320 So now the goal is to be able to build a craft, put it where she saw it and recreate her 206 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:52,160 sighting in the actual spot where it took place. 207 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,840 When it comes to photographs, they want to find that wow image, the one that's going 208 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,400 to really say look we've got them, they're here. 209 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,900 So this was in May. 210 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:02,920 What did you see with your eye? 211 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,200 It looked like three giant headlights of a car. 212 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Three headlights. 213 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,200 It's giant three headlights, that's what I usually see first. 214 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,720 In any kind of pattern configuration of any kind? 215 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,220 No, not really. 216 00:13:15,220 --> 00:13:19,440 It was just the round object, the round part of it. 217 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,280 It's like three giant headlights, just looks like a flat surface of an object with the 218 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,800 lights. 219 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,320 As I'm looking at her pictures, the part I didn't understand was how you could look 220 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,560 at a triangle that's got three different colored lights on it and you show me a picture of 221 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:43,480 something that looks like a golf ball. 222 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,160 So in this first one, this was 420 2008. 223 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,160 Where did you take that picture? 224 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,720 If you could just take your camera off right over there and go check it out. 225 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,400 I asked Denise to recreate the manner in which she took the pictures. 226 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,800 I wanted her to use the same camera. 227 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:03,840 I were taught this tree, so I just aimed it at it. 228 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,080 Mark said she held the camera at arm's length. 229 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:12,120 I think what she was doing was pointing it in the direction of what she saw snapping, 230 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,480 almost like if you're at an event and you're snapping over the crowd, you think you're 231 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,520 getting what's going on, but you don't really know. 232 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,880 And I think that she may have thought she photo what she was looking at and was off 233 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,480 and it might not even be in the frame. 234 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,640 I spent a good deal of time last night going over all the images. 235 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,760 In this image that was submitted, I noticed this clearly over here there's this bright 236 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,320 blue ball. 237 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,680 And that's interesting looking in and of itself. 238 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,800 So to look more closely at that, I zoomed way in, brightened the image and I looked 239 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,400 at that object. 240 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,440 What I saw inside the object were arcs. 241 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,200 So one thing you can notice is if you complete these arcs, there's a bright object just off 242 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,600 frame right about here. 243 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,920 Maybe that's what she meant. 244 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Maybe that's our object. 245 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,920 Maybe that's the coolest thing in the world, but it's here. 246 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,920 It's not there. 247 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,360 That could be the object that she meant for us to see and it might have been a very interesting 248 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,480 object, but she didn't catch it. 249 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:17,840 I believe that this person took something that was genuinely intriguing and interesting, 250 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,680 but so far, and I have more analysis to do, there's quite a few pictures. 251 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:36,920 So far I don't see anything that's not explainable so far. 252 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Can you show us where your second siding took place? 253 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,800 Yeah, it was outside if you want to go out there. 254 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:51,440 It was right between those two pine trees and then I realized it was a solid object. 255 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,120 I think one of the most compelling witnesses so far has been Cliff. 256 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,760 I mean, there is no reason for a retiree who's had a good life and a good business to come 257 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,760 up with this story. 258 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,760 This is about where it happened. 259 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,640 We came out here, of course, it was dark, it was like four o'clock or so and it was 260 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,640 still very dark. 261 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Okay. 262 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,480 And about the time we got back out here, it was probably right around there and there 263 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,160 was a lightning flash. 264 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,920 And when that flashed, I saw the whole object and it wasn't what I expected because when 265 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:26,280 I saw it before, it looked like it, just a hexagon, dark solid object, I guess you'd 266 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,280 call it. 267 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,880 This time the lightning shown through cracks in the object and it kind of divided it up 268 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,240 into almost six equal triangular shaped things. 269 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,640 He saw the craft and he saw the light coming through the seams so he knew there were six 270 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,600 different objects connected. 271 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,120 His description was as good as it gets. 272 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,480 How big would you say it was? 273 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:56,000 It was at least from where we are to the tree line width wise and probably maybe even longer 274 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,360 than that because it seems to be elongated. 275 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,600 He calculated this thing to be in excess of 300 feet so this is an enormous craft. 276 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,920 I mean this is a baseball or a football stadium flying over his house. 277 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,440 I was a little upset of seeing what I saw because I didn't expect to see that. 278 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,240 I just didn't, I didn't think the lightning was going to illuminate it the way it did 279 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,200 and I was a little setback. 280 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,640 Do you have any concerns that this is the second time you've seen it over your property? 281 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Yeah, I just want to get on with my life. 282 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Yeah, I don't want to see anymore. 283 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,000 He's a little afraid and I think he's a little concerned. 284 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,160 I said why does he keep coming around his neighborhood? 285 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,880 Why is he the one that's seeing it? 286 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Cliff and Denise, they've seen something more than once and that becomes exciting for us 287 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 because it wasn't a one time deal. 288 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Now would you take your eyes off of something like that? 289 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 I wasn't moving. 290 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,800 I didn't really believe the story of the metallic sprinkles coming down but that's the part 291 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,680 of the case that's actually come to fruition. 292 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:14,280 It got right near my house when it briefly turned red and then bang was going to vanish. 293 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:23,840 It was going very fast so it had like okay, it said that motion over here. 294 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,800 This is such a good case. 295 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,080 We've got so many witnesses, we've got physical evidence so I called James Cary on the International 296 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,960 Director to enact our STAR team just because I wanted to make sure that I covered all the 297 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,280 bases. 298 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,080 The STAR team is made up of a group of elite new fund investigators who can be deployed 299 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,400 at a moment's notice wherever there's a major UFO event. 300 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Yeah, listen that's a video that I told you about. 301 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 This is a really incredible case. 302 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,360 There's a number of sightings and any of these cases that are associated with any kind of 303 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,200 physical evidence, we're going to focus on those first. 304 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,160 We're not here to take over the investigation, we're here to help them and provide technical 305 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,200 support and experience. 306 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,520 When you have members of the STAR team coming down, that in itself is an indication that 307 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:17,840 we've got something here that's a little bit more unusual than just a rash of sightings. 308 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,200 When you saw these flakes come down, did they reach a certain level and then get sucked 309 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,800 back up right away or did any of them reach the ground and get sucked back up? 310 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,480 No, none of them reached the ground. 311 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,840 They came down simultaneously and it looked like Christmas lights. 312 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,160 It looked like it was Christmas lights. 313 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,120 They were all glowing. 314 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,160 We already knew Denise's story. 315 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,480 She had multiple sightings of the same object. 316 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,440 It's glitter coming down from the object into this tree. 317 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,520 It was this tree. 318 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,440 I knew that she had taken these photos. 319 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,280 We had seen the photos beforehand, but we're a little at a loss to understand why is it 320 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,960 that she saw this object five times but didn't have a clear photo of it. 321 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,880 Denise, you said this was a giant craft. 322 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,840 If you were looking, just put your fingers up there and tell me how big the object would 323 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,040 have been on the screen there. 324 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,880 It was pretty big. 325 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,320 But in your pictures, nothing that big shows up on the pictures, which is what we find 326 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,320 on. 327 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,280 Just try to understand how it is you could look through the camera and you said you could 328 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,120 see the object inside of the screen as being very large, but we're not seeing it show up 329 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,120 on film. 330 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:26,840 We're not seeing it actually show up in the picture. 331 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,840 Did you look at all the pictures? 332 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,840 Yes. 333 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Did you have time to put your glasses on? 334 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560 No, I never had time to get my glasses on ever. 335 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,560 So you took the picture? 336 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,640 Because you never knew when it was going to go away, so I didn't want to go in the house 337 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,200 and miss it or whatever, but no, I never had my glasses on. 338 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Why do you think you haven't seen it since? 339 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:51,000 I really don't know why, but hopefully they're going to show themselves to somebody else. 340 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,600 It's a non-believer maybe, but I had no idea. 341 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,600 You started off as a non-believer? 342 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Yes, I was. 343 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Okay, and now? 344 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,600 And now I'm a believer. 345 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,600 It's pretty cool. 346 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:13,120 Denise, does this look like the object you saw? 347 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,120 Yes. 348 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:20,440 Yes, except it goes slower when it goes in a shuffling pattern. 349 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,760 What do you mean by a shuffling pattern? 350 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,760 When it's going across the sky, it kind of just shuffles along. 351 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,880 So you're saying that the way we have this illustrated here, it's a pretty smooth trajectory. 352 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,880 Right. 353 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,760 You're saying it's a more zigzag kind of thing? 354 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Yes. 355 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Shall we take a look at the sparkles here? 356 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Wow. 357 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Oh, that's cool. 358 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Looks like Christmas. 359 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Oh my gosh. 360 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Is that what it looked like? 361 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,760 Yes, except it was twinkling more, but other than that, it just like it. 362 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,760 And they just pulled away and went up just like that? 363 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Yes, just like that. 364 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,760 I just can't believe someone can capture what you're seeing, you know? 365 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,760 It's like if these guys were there. 366 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Do it again. 367 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,760 And when we talked about the sighting and the glitter, she seemed much more confident. 368 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,760 She was very direct. 369 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Her answers were spontaneous, and she seemed like she was telling the truth about that. 370 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,760 But she's alleged that that glitter had come down in the trees and illuminated the trees, 371 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,760 and she stood there for 20 minutes and watched it and never thought to get a camera. 372 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Just like that? 373 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Yes, just like that. 374 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Now, would you take your eyes off of something like that? 375 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,760 I wasn't moving. 376 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,760 When we showed her those metallic sparkles, sprinkles coming down onto the tree, she lit up. 377 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,760 That hit it right on the head, that this was exactly what she saw coming into those trees. 378 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760 So to me, that was confirmation that we got something good. 379 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,760 It's always like flickering. 380 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,760 It's like a little flicker. 381 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,760 MUFUN is a nonprofit scientific research organization. 382 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,760 We work with a wide network of experts who offer their skills and expertise to MUFUN. 383 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Dr. Levengood is a retired professor who's intrigued by UFO investigations. 384 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,760 He has his own lab and will look into interesting cases for UFO researchers. 385 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,760 When we took these leaves and sent it to a lab for testing, 386 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,760 we never thought we were going to get the type of report back that we did. 387 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Professor Levengood's report said that these leaves in this tree was hit by some form of radiation. 388 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:41,760 At first glance, this looked very suspicious because the leaves had a reddish coloration. 389 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,760 That never happens in June or July, normally. 390 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,760 But here, the energy level was so high that it caused the production of anthocyanin, 391 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,760 a pigment in the plant that causes the reddish color in the leaves. 392 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Now, this was a real unusual situation. 393 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,760 The energy not only produced this cream-colored region, 394 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:14,760 but you got little bubbles from when the microwave heated the cytoplasm so fast that I'd never seen before at all. 395 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,760 This whole thing took place in a matter of microseconds. 396 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Denise saw a very, very unusual phenomena. 397 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Another obvious thing that was occurring in these leaves, notice the heart shape. 398 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760 This is extremely unusual. 399 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760 This is called a somatic mutation. 400 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Here are the normal leaves down here. 401 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,760 They come to a point, so they're quite different. 402 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:48,760 You'll notice why, because these microwave energies came along and just hit that leaf bud's tip. 403 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,760 And it didn't kill the cells, but it slowed the growth rate way down. 404 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,760 I don't think we can escape the fact that some area of the sky 405 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,760 had emitted an energy that caused these changes in the leaves. 406 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,760 He's found stuff that he's never found before. 407 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760 The new growth is actually mutated. 408 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,760 Changes that wouldn't happen unless something came in contact with microwaves. 409 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,760 I don't think Denise walked out back with her microwave 410 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760 and popped the tree branch from up top into it. 411 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760 I sold the whole object. 412 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,760 I wasn't quite sure whether or not I was losing it. 413 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,760 The guy has really nothing at all to gain by making up a story like this. 414 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760 All Mufon investigators are volunteers. 415 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,760 Their full-time occupations range from police detectives to computer graphic designers 416 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760 to aeronautical engineers. 417 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,760 They bring their skills to each investigation. 418 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,760 The close description of the UFO, I think, is probably one of the most detailed ones I've ever gotten. 419 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760 If they make any noise, they move very slow. 420 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760 If that was a plane, it would have fell right out of the sky. 421 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,760 This thing wasn't smooth or aerodynamic in any way. 422 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:34,760 He was very specific about the top of the craft, had windows that came along the edge. 423 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,760 The interesting thing about his description was there were no lights. 424 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 So many UFO stories involved lights in the sky. 425 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,760 This was a completely dark craft. 426 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,760 And the only way he saw this was that the heat lightning lit up the clouds behind it. 427 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,760 This is a very useful tool to me because it's one thing to hear a description of someone. 428 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,760 But once you show them an animation, it's interesting how they will start to really pick out what's wrong about it 429 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,760 and help us refine it and we get to a really good view into their mind as to what they saw. 430 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Cliff, I want to show you the animation. 431 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Let's go ahead and play it all the way through once. 432 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,760 And then we'll play it again and you can stop it at certain points and then point out whether it's accurate or not. 433 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:34,760 Initial impressions? Very realistic looking. 434 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,760 But it's too smooth on the sides from what I could see there. 435 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,760 It didn't look quite like that. 436 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,760 And if you're trying to get in the perspective of how I saw it, it wasn't going this way. 437 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760 It was going kind of away from me. 438 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760 So it looked more like a pizza. 439 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760 It was cut six slices. 440 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,760 It was more consistent on the bottom here. 441 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 It was still gray, like the color of the sky. 442 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,760 But here we got it black. 443 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,760 But no black. You can't really see the seams. 444 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Was there any lighting at all of the craft itself? 445 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:16,760 Cliff's reaction to the animation, he made elaborations on it going back to the very first description he gave me 446 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,760 and the first drawings that he showed me. 447 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,760 You're seeing someone who is relying on memory rather than imagination. 448 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:31,760 After Cliff saw the animation, he opened up and started to tell us a lot more about what happened to him. 449 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,760 And that's what really what we were hoping for. 450 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:42,760 There were some things that happened during both sightings that I didn't really bring out because I, at that point, I know what I saw. 451 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,760 But I wasn't quite sure whether or not I was losing it. 452 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,760 What it was doing as it went along, it would kind of jump. 453 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,760 And you would see it here and then you would see it here. 454 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,760 It kind of goes in a shuffling pattern. 455 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,760 What do you mean by a shuffling pattern? 456 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Like when it's going across the sky, it kind of just shuffles along. 457 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,760 So it's almost like you were filming something and that's the only object that was moving. 458 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760 It would look like it was here and it skipped and it goes there. 459 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,760 The object skipping through the sky. 460 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:28,760 When he got into that mode of explaining that, that's sort of what tipped me off to there might be a little more to it than was initially realized. 461 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 To me, Kalypsy seemed like an extremely credible witness. 462 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,760 I don't see how this guy is going to at all benefit by coming forward with a story like this. 463 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,760 He has so much more to lose than he has to gain. 464 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:47,760 In terms of his standing in the community, the way his neighbors are going to view him, the guy has really nothing at all to gain by making up a story like this. 465 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,760 It's not exactly what I saw that's the best I could do for him. 466 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:58,760 I think he's coming forward because he's seeing something that he can't explain, that he wants someone to verify it for him. 467 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,760 And just like any kind of credible witness, they wonder about their own sanity. 468 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,760 They wonder when no one else can validate what they've seen, whether it's something that they've made up. 469 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,760 But his deep conviction tells me and his stability tells me that what he's seen must be true. 470 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,760 If you're sleeping and woke up, could you sense something? 471 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760 Now the dog, the dog woke me up. 472 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,760 Very little of what he had to say makes a whole lot of sense. 473 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,760 I managed to isolate some very small flakes of a white compound. 474 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,760 There is something intriguing here. 475 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,760 It's like the regular airplane light, but there were so many of them. 476 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760 They would start as balls of light, then morph into a crab. 477 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:08,760 When I got Levin Good's analysis, I was intrigued by the fact that something may have chemically altered these leaves or caused mutations in the growth. 478 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,760 But I knew that I had to get a second opinion. 479 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Dr. Salisbury is a world-class plant physiologist. 480 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:28,760 We took Levin Good's report and we forwarded it on to Dr. Salisbury for him to just take a look at it and tell us whether he agreed with Levin Good's analysis or not. 481 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Unfortunately, he starts right off jumping to conclusions. 482 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760 He jumps to conclusions throughout the whole analysis. 483 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Levin Good says that the brown spots were because of anthocyanins. 484 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:48,760 This looked very suspicious because the leaves had a reddish coloration. 485 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760 That never happens in June or July, normally. 486 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,760 To me, that's a tremendous conclusion jump. 487 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:04,760 The only way that he really would know that the anthocyanins would be to do the proper tests, chemical tests. 488 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,760 No real reason to think they're anthocyanins. 489 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Then there were mutations. 490 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,760 He finds some of the leaves have a heart shape. 491 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:21,760 But the idea that they were in response to a mutation is again a huge leap into the unknown. 492 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,760 For one thing, leaves don't particularly grow that way. 493 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760 They don't grow at the tip like stems do. 494 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,760 They form in the bud and then the cells expand to make the leaves. 495 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,760 It was disappointing, but also I said to myself, isn't this typical? 496 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,760 I mean, no matter what you do in this field, there's always a skeptic or somebody else to come back with the opposite. 497 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,760 So in this case, we have one scientist on one hand that's saying, yes, we have something here. 498 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:56,760 Then we turn around and submit his report to another scientist who takes the opposing view and says he doesn't think what the first one told us was valid. 499 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:10,760 There's several photos that were interesting. Let's take a look at this one. 500 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:18,760 My understanding is that this is the image that she's told the investigators was a pretty direct representation of what she actually saw that night. 501 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,760 What do you think of it? 502 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,760 When you look at this image, you see what looks like a bright, splotchy looking image. 503 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,760 So now you have this and that. 504 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:36,760 So here we see the bright image. You have to identify that and also account for what this is. What's that? 505 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,760 I asked Denise to take me outside and show me exactly where this was. 506 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,760 You got the coordinates and then... 507 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,760 I did. I did a compass bearing of 220 degrees. I could then plug it into some of my astronomy programs that I have. 508 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Get the celestial picture. 509 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Get a celestial picture for that exact time and date. 510 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,760 We're looking for her backyard just like it would look. 511 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,760 That's right. She said it was somewhere between 1 and 2 in the morning. 512 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,760 And I have it set for 1 in the morning right now. 513 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:13,760 If we move the time ahead a little bit, okay, now we're around 2 in the morning. 514 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,760 And lo and behold, here comes the moon in Jupiter. 515 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,760 And that would put you in line with the tree line. 516 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,760 Actually, it would put us right in the tree line. 517 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,760 And the moon was full. You can actually see leaves silhouetted against the moon in this image. 518 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,760 And that explains why the moon was round behind the trees. 519 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,760 Gotcha. 520 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:40,760 Alright. Now, when you look at the image, you see that the orientation of this moon and that Jupiter are not the same as in the photo we saw. 521 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,760 Yeah, but you said she had the camera turned up this way too. 522 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,760 She could very well have turned the camera vertical for that shot. 523 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,760 And that would explain exactly what we're seeing. 524 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,760 It's perfect. It's amazing, isn't it? It's perfect. 525 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,760 It's a perfect correlation. 526 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,760 Mark and I went through all Denise's photos and there was really nothing there. 527 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:03,760 Mark felt everything was either reflections off the lens, possible aircraft lights, and other bright lights in the sky. 528 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,760 There was nothing there that Mark couldn't explain. And it was really disappointing. 529 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,760 Denise's case is falling apart, but we don't want to give up on it. 530 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,760 We collected samples from the tree that the UFO was seeing hovering above and dropping down this glitter into. 531 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,760 But we also took some samples from a tree that was much further away to act as a control. 532 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,760 What did you find different between the two samples, the affected and the control? 533 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,760 The big difference was in a very minor element, boron. 534 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,760 It was a difference that jumped out at me because in the affected tree, that value is several times higher. 535 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:51,760 And so that might let you have a stronger hypothesis that something was deposited on the leaves from some other source. 536 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,760 What Nick was able to tell us was that there is something intriguing here. 537 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,760 That something seems to have happened to this tree that's next to Denise's home. 538 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,760 And I think it leads a little more credibility to her story. 539 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,760 Then Nick told me about the flakes. 540 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:17,760 I managed to isolate some very small flakes of a white compound that I found on a few of the leaves from the affected tree. 541 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,760 And I did not find any amongst the leaves from the control tree. 542 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Flakes from the affected tree exhibited a really unusual series of forms or shapes at a microscopic level. 543 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,760 The largest of which was probably about the size of a head of a pin. 544 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,760 These white flakes, do they have any shine to them? Is this possibly the glitter she's talking about? 545 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:49,760 Well, if there was a shower or some kind of a cascade of flakes that would have been of the size of that one, 546 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,760 I would say that if you had a bright light source shining on them, they probably would glitter. 547 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,760 They would show up, I would think. 548 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,760 It's been a real roller coaster ride with Denise's case. 549 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,760 We thought we had this compelling evidence that just came tumbling down. 550 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,760 But then Nick comes forward with these unusual flakes and boron content, 551 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,760 which makes Denise's story more compelling. 552 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,760 So maybe something happened here after all. 553 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760 That's exactly how it was. It's eerie. 554 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,760 If we can validate the story, what we have is an unidentified object in that airspace. 555 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:33,760 NAPHON annually investigates an average of 5,000 reported UFO sightings. 556 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:40,760 Approximately 85% are dismissed as either misidentification of natural phenomenon, 557 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,760 man-made activity, or deliberate hoax. 558 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,760 15% remain unexplained. 559 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:05,760 This about everything in our arsenal comes off of this Willow Grove Air Force Base. 560 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:13,760 We've got Arias, they have C-130s, F-16s, Warthog, do name it, it comes off of this base. 561 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,760 But no hexagonal aircraft that we know of. 562 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,760 That's pretty close. They usually don't fly over a house like that. 563 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,760 But the sound from the UFOs, did they sound like this? 564 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,760 Well, there was no sound whatsoever. 565 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:31,760 I immediately knew this was nothing that I could identify as either a commercial aircraft or a military aircraft. 566 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,760 It'd be important for us to go in and maybe interview the base commander. 567 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,760 We're trying right now to set up an interview for you guys. 568 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,760 Do you really think they're going to tell us anything? 569 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,760 Well, if it's an exotic top secret craft, I really doubt it, but I think it's worth the shot. 570 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,760 We have to talk to them. We have to give them their opportunity. 571 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,760 Absolutely. How do you get to the truth? 572 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,760 I mean, you know that the government knows. They have to know. They monitor everything. 573 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,760 And we keep plugging away, you know, at this low level, trying to find out what the truth is. 574 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,760 And it's very frustrating. 575 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,760 The photographs have really not helped her. They've heard her more than anything. 576 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:23,760 And I was really trying to just in my own mind, clarify which one of these things she'd actually seen or not. 577 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,760 Oh my gosh. 578 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,760 Woo. 579 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,760 It's eerie. 580 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,760 Now, the next one was when the lights came down and went into the tree in the backyard. 581 00:39:47,760 --> 00:40:00,760 It's so true and exact the way I saw it that night. 582 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,760 Is that photographic? 583 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,760 Yes, it does. It looks just like it. That's exactly how it was. 584 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,760 Good. 585 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,760 What really got my attention, she got very emotional when she saw it. 586 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,760 And it seemed as if that took her back to that night. 587 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,760 And based on that, I was starting to believe what she was telling me. 588 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,760 We tried to adjust this to make it look as close to what you saw as possible. 589 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,760 That's pretty good, but it makes it look like it's a very small object. 590 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,760 This thing was immense. 591 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,760 And the height of it, and as big as it was, sent me back. 592 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,760 I'm going this far with it. I'm not going to back out now, but... 593 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:34,760 I did manage to go down to Philly International Airport and take a look at the radar tracks. 594 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,760 There was something that came in on the radar without the transponder code. 595 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:48,760 And it had the right time setting, and the time frame, the date frame, is when Cliff had his sighting. 596 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,760 The transponder is a device, it's a piece of the radio equipment on an aircraft 597 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,760 that basically transmits a code number to the air traffic controller's radar. 598 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:03,760 When they dial that number in, that number basically lights up on that blip on the screen and identifies that blip. 599 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,760 Going through congested airspace like Philadelphia without a transponder, 600 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,760 it'd be like driving up a vehicle up the wrong side of an interstate highway at night with no lights on. 601 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:21,760 This craft did come down, flew around, went west, turned around and made a new turn 602 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,760 and came back up and headed back towards New York. 603 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,760 If we can validate the story that we've gotten from the individual at the Air Traffic Control Center in Philadelphia, 604 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,760 then what we have is an unidentified object in that airspace. 605 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:52,760 Music 606 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,760 I don't remember any cases, but I'm sure we can look back through our archives and see if there's anything similar. 607 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,760 It's a possibility. 608 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,760 Most of the witnesses I've talked to have been very convincing, very down to earth. 609 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,760 It gives me an idea that there has to be something out there, like they say there's smoke, there's fire. 610 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,760 I believe that what we have to do is just keep asking these questions, doing these investigations 611 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:26,760 so that the public knows it's okay to come forward with their reports and eventually, you know, we're going to get an answer.